Thursday, July 22, 2010

Seller send new invoice ?

About an hour ago I've won brand new iPad 16GB from seller with 99.9% Positive feedback (with more than 10000 transactions). I'm aware that iPads are hot stuff right now and great lure for scammers but they are available in many decent auctions as "unwanted gifts". Price was normal (580USD) and just few minutes after transaction ended I've payed with PayPal. But to my surprise few minutes later seller canceled PayPal transaction with "Message from merchant: I'll sedn revised invoice." And he really send revised invoice with same amount and his details but as "PayPal money request" and item on eBay changed status to unpaid !!!! Obviously something isn't right so I've send message to him that I don't like "off-eBay transaction" and he responded with " "THIS IS NOT OFFEBAY, IAM ONLY SENDING INVOICE FOR NONE-REFUNDABLE INVOICE FOR MY PROTECTION. I'LL BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO CANCEL THE ORDER, THER ARE MANY OTHER BIDDERS WHO WANTS THIS ITEM." I've refused, he initiated cancellation and item is on auction again. So, obviously something isn't right but I can figure what ?|||The part about, ""THIS IS NOT OFFEBAY, IAM ONLY SENDING INVOICE FOR NONE-REFUNDABLE INVOICE FOR MY PROTECTION. " sounds a little fishy to me, like something could be wrong with it. If you do complete it outside of paypal I would use a credit card in case something is wrong you could always do a chargeback.||||||He initiated a Mutual Cancellation? Don't agree to accept it. It won't make him ship but it will stop him from getting back his eBay fees. It sounds to me like he is sending a personal money request to..... A.......Avoid paying PayPal fees B...... Not have your payment tied to the eBay item, so you lose buyer protection and only have the much lesser PayPal Buyer Complaint Policy. You can file a non performing seller report ... Link ~ Lucy ~ Guide to eBay Board AcronymsClick on for links to Help Pages for a new eBayer||||||"And he really send revised invoice with same amount and his details but as "PayPal money request" and item on eBay changed status to unpaid !!!! " The reason the seller sent the Paypal " Send Money Request" was it affords you LESS Buyer protection and a refund ONLY if the seller has money in their acct as a Paypal Buyer Complaint. The refund of your Paypal payment triggered an auto default in your MY EBay page which reverts (due to refund) to show unpaid. The MY Ebay page showing payment due is for your eyes only. You can either use the drop down menu and mark paid or just ignore it. At this point, DO NOT repay via the "send money Request" as it affords little buyer protection if the item never arrives and DOES NOT carry the same SNAD option for buyers. File the Non Performing Seller report here Link IF the seller files the UID (unpaid item dispute) just give the Paypal transaction number showing payment was made. IF the seller files a "Cancel the trasaction request" DECLINE it immediately, so the seller does not get their Final Valeu Fee back from Ebay. IF the seller has low or no feedback, the seller sent the "send money request" to circumvent the Paypal 21 day hold of the buyer's money , until proof of delivery, or feedback is left or the 21 day hold has expired.|||After you file the NPS report and decline the request for cancellation of the transaction, DO leave an appropriate NEG as follows:" Won, Paid seller tried to circumvent policies to scam. Buyers Beware"|||Paypal's Buyer Complaint process and Paypal's Buyer Protection are two very different types of processes and coverage. Only the Buyer Protection process is for Ebay transactions and guarantees a full refund, while the Buyer Complaint, does not.|||In view of the seller's actions, take your refund and move on.|||A seller with that many transactions, knows the ropes and is trying to scam buyers, so they have little to no recourse on a high fraud item.|||A review of your auction and the seller's user ID is is clear the seller is Military and drop shipping items. It is also clear from this statement in the auction, the seller does not want any want to be subject to Ebay/Paypal's Buyer Protection and does not follow rules/policy. "Item also listed on local listing, seller reserve the right to cancel the listing if sold locally."||||||"The reason the seller sent the Paypal " Send Money Request" was it affords you LESS Buyer protection and a refund ONLY if the seller has money in their acct as a Paypal Buyer Complaint" Buyer has plenty of protection through the Ebay buyer program.Need a website fast?|||

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