Seller backed out! What's next?

Hi A week ago I got interested by some fishing lures from a seller that lives 5 miles away from me. I contacted him and asked if I happened to be the winner if I could pick up since we were so close. He replied within minutes and said I could pick up and save shipping, no problems. I did "buy it now" on his auction and it's been a week and he doesn't answer my emails via Ebay. This guy has zero feedback. I honestly don't care if he changed his mind, there are more lures to bid on Ebay. What I am worried is if he fills a non paying bidder with Ebay. What would you do? I do understand something could have happened to this seller like an accident or something but I doubt it. He has nothing else for sale. Thanks Patrick|||regardless of whether you are picking them up or not you should still pay via pay pal to protect yourself. You can request an invoice from him with the shipping revision. But if he does not respond yet again, I would just pay the invoice with the shipping. I would imagine the shipping for the lures can't be that much. Then just hope that he gets back to you and issues you a shipping refund. It is his feedback at risk here..... Then, in the meantime if he doesn't get back to you or ship them, file an INR after a few weeks. If he is unable to prove they were shipped or picked up, ebay/pay pal will issue you a refund....|||Use this link to pull the seller's contact information and give them a call. Link Agree, pay for your item via Paypal (funding source a credit card) and you can eliminate the posability of the new seller filing the UID in 4 days post auction. Sellers can now, file the UID 4 days post auction.If you get no response from phoning and paying , then just file the Non Performing Seller report Link If the seller is not available for the pre arranged Local Pick up, then file the INR with Paypal after 10 business days after payment has been made.|||New or low seller feedback is subject to Paypal's 21 day hold of the buyer's payment, until the seller provides proof of delivery OR the buyer leaves Positive feedback (only leave ps FB if the item was received in good order) OR the 21 days has expired.|||I disagree 100%. The seller dos not have to take Paypal for local pick up. In fact it is not a good thing for a seller to take Paypal for local pick up.|||Any educated buyer knows you never accept paypal for local pickup, Cash only, no exceptions.|||I disagree 100%. The seller dos not have to take Paypal for local pick up. In fact it is not a good thing for a seller to take Paypal for local pick up. Of course the seller doesn't have to take pay pal, but as protection on both ends a pay pal transaction is wise. The buyer could pick up the item then file an INR stating they didn't receive the item seeing that there was no DC to back this up. Who do you think would win? The BUYER!! Then the buyer would have the item and pay pal would still take money back from the seller. FAWN, why do you say it is NOT a good idea for a seller to take Pay pal for a local pickup....EVERYTHING should be in black and white.....Especially in this instance seeing that the listing is with shipping and not local pick up... Any educated buyer knows you never accept paypal for local pickup, Cash only, no exceptions. What is your reasoning behind this comic? I as a buyer would want proof that I paid via pay pal. What if something goes wrong when you get the item home. You are no longer protected for a return....|||I suggested the OP just go ahead and pay via Paypal , as that is the ONLY way and proof Ebay will accept as proof of payment for a UID filed. Ebay requires proof via one of the accepted payments methods Link to avoid a UID strike on the buyer, which can be filed 4 days post auction. Sellers should not accept Paypal for a Local Pick up as there would be no D/C to prove delivery. If this seller agreed to a local pick up and payment via Paypal as indicated by the OP, calling the seller is the way to go. The Op should just go ahead and pay .|||"What is your reasoning behind this comic? I as a buyer would want proof that I paid via pay pal. What if something goes wrong when you get the item home. You are no longer protected for a return...." A buyer could pay via Paypal , pick up the item and then file a INR. Buyer would win since no required D/C will be available for the seller to dispute the INR filed by a buyer for a local pick up. If doing a local Pick Up , paying cash there is no recourse for a refund for the buyer via Ebay or Paypal's Buyer Protection.|||Hi I certainly appreciate all the help on the matter.I did learn a lot from this thread. The seller finally contacted me after the request for the invoice was sent. He blamed personal problems and said we can meet tomorrow. I won't ask him anything about his problems (True or not), will grab my stuff, say thanks and go. Thanks again for all the kind help. Patrick|||Sellers should not accept Paypal for a Local Pick up as there would be no D/C to prove delivery. Totally agreed, but my point is pertaining to this particular instance. The listing had a shipping method and shipping price. It was not listed as a pick up only, therefore as proof of payment this is why the buyer should pay via pay pal....The seller could claim non payment because his listing didn't say PU only....I know, sounds confusing.|||]Sellers should not accept Paypal for a Local Pick up as there would be no D/C to prove delivery. Looks like sellers should not accept paypal but buyers should insist on paypal even on local pickups. What about my scenario: I just bought an item 100 miles away that's listed as having a 7 day return period and a standard Ebay written used description (why cant they let the seller write this. It uses a std description of the used item saying it might have been a return and is fully functional. The seller (with 0 feedback but 40 recently listed items) states in an email that they don't know if it works or not and it was bought at an auction and is being sold as is. This is despite no mention of as is in the listing and a 7 day return offered on all their items). The item weighs 500 pounds and while freight is listed on the aucrion the seller said I can pick it up. I intend to test it to see if it works and if not return it. To insure the seller takes it back I will pay with Paypal, not being comfortable with the conflict between what they say and what is in the ad. By the way the email was from an employee not the owner. So on a in person transaction there should be something written out where the seller signs something saying the item is received. I don't know what proof is needed from paypal that a return is made since its not being shipped by mail in the event the seller says they're not going to take it back. Bring a camera with you to show the item being pushed off your truck in front of the seller. Too many rules and exceptions to keep up with.|||If you pay w paypal you will have to proof with online viewable delivery confirmation(signature if $250 or more)that the item was returned.So you will have to pay to ship it back should you returnIt may not be your fault but it is your responsibility Silver rule "do not do to others what you would not like to be done to you"|||should say Prove or have proof viaIt may not be your fault but it is your responsibility Silver rule "do not do to others what you would not like to be done to you"|||I don't know what proof is needed from paypal that a return is made since its not being shipped by mail in the event the seller says they're not going to take it back. Bring a camera with you to show the item being pushed off your truck in front of the seller. lol, you'll have to have tracking that's viewible online for eBay/pay pal to refund. so shipping that 500 lb item might cost more than it's worth. but you'll have to ship it back with tracking to recover any $ . as to paying with pay pal for pickup items , no seller will accept it if they have read the conditions of seller protection. nothing signed at the time of an in person sale is going to help either party with pay pal / eBay. it might in a small claims court .